Since I wrote my previous article there have been some significant developments in the Verizon file transfer saga. It now appears that my initial report is wrong. Motorola Phone Tools and OBEX are not working for everyone. If your phone had the previous .02 firmware, the firmware which Verizon accidentally left OBEX on, and you upgrade to .04, you will retain Phone Tools transfer and OBEX. However, if you upgrade from .03, the firmware which Verizon stripped the OBEX code, you will not have file transfer capabilities.
At the moment there is no clear-cut answer to this phenomenon. There are a couple of theories, though. The first theory is that the .04 firmware is not a full firmware package and is simply an update to Verizon’s interface. If this would be the case, any functionality present in the previous firmware would carry over to the new version, thus leaving OBEX intact. The other theory is that Verizon has readded the file transfer code to this new firmware, possibly to be enabled sometime in the future. If this theory is the case, .02 users are retaining OBEX since a seem, a file on the phone which contains configurable settings, is not being overwritten during the firmware flash, thus allowing file transfer to continue to work.
Regardless of which method is the correct one, this is still significant news for phone hackers. What this means is there is a way to enjoy the latest firmware while still maintaining file transfers. Currently it appears you’ll have to downgrade to .02, then take your phone to Verizon for the firmware flash, but in the near future a simple seem edit may be all that’s required.
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I am only interested in one thing… does the new firmware actually speed up this turtle of an IU cause i am ready to switch to Cingular alone for the UI in this phone!
Yeah, after the firmware update the UI is as fast as a normal phone.
Still not good enough for me. I really am not pleased with the phone as I expected. I think I will wait until the next Alltel f/w is out and go with that. Personally though, I much rather go with Cingular and stick it out with a GSM network as Mr Smithers mentioned on a previous post.
IF i had a kool cell phone i would you it to bring terror on the streets of gotham, while this random woman brags about oprah and punches a bowl of chicken noddles!
Now take that information and keep it hidden from anyone!
oprah is kool as a bag of puppies! and by puppies i mean ass herpies!
If I don’t like the .04 upgrade, can the phone be brought back down to .02?
Sure, you would just follow the same instructions to downgrade to .02 from .04.
Lots of comments about going to Cingular. I just paid the severance fee to leave them. Their service was totally abysmal. The quality of calls was horrible, with frequent dropped calls even in a major metropolitan area in which we live. When I called they found an “issue” they corrected with my account. Thereafter, I couldn’t call my spouse for 4 days. A total mess, my experience with Cingular and I cannot in recommend in good concious that anyone do any business with them.
All I want to do is download music to my phone. Do i just load the .02 firmware and that should do it??
Any advice would help
Thanks
Ken, it depends. Do have MPT with a mini USB cable? If you do you can just use that.
I have the MPT software and a Mini-USB. But I cannot load music (Verizon).
How and where do I get the .02 software??
Thanks
It is a Razr phone.
Thanks
Ken, go into your phone properties and manually set your phone as a V3cm. That will enable the multimedia studio in MPT.
Recently Upgraded my Verizon’s Razor V3C to 01.15.04 software at the store - still NO OBEX and NO file transfers.
G.
Ken, go into your phone properties and manually set your phone as a V3cm. That will enable the multimedia studio in MPT.
Where exactly would I do this?
There is an option menu. In there is phone prefs. Hit the button that allows you to reconfigure your phone. You then have check a box to manually select the phone.
Got it, thanks.
“There is an option menu. In there is phone prefs. Hit the button that allows you to reconfigure your phone. You then have check a box to manually select the phone.”
I am sorry, but I have the same issue as Ken and could not follow this. I went to:
Settings and Tools—-> System—–> Device Info—-> Other Information
Under this tab is a list of setting, including firmware, ESN, technology, etc. I have gone through all options (so I think), but do not see antthing to reconfigure the phone to change it to V3cm? Any help? Thanks!
Oh, I am running the .04 firmware on my V3c if that matter. Thanks
The setting isn’t on the phone. It’s in the Motorola Phone Tools’ settings.
Thanks for the reply.
Ok, well, that explains it. But this leads to another issue. MPT tells me it cannot detect my phone. Why might this be?
This prevents me from even changing the setting you suggested. I cannot go any further than “cannot find phone” screen. Thanks.
Setting Motorola Phone Tools to see a V3c as a V3cm may appear to work at first, but when attempting the file transfer it is unable to communicate with my phone which I just got yesterday 28May2006. It came with Verizon Firmware version .04. Any Ideas on getting mp3’s onto this phone?
“Setting Motorola Phone Tools to see a V3c as a V3cm may appear to work at first, but when attempting the file transfer it is unable to communicate with my phone which I just got yesterday 28May2006. It came with Verizon Firmware version .04. Any Ideas on getting mp3’s onto this phone?”
Ditto.
There is a seem edit you have to do. Not sure the details on the seem, I just know you need to do one.
Use audacity to clip your tracks and make mono for filesize’s sake, save as a wav, convert to an mp3 then change the file extension to .mid. This will allow you to then email the file to yourphonenumber@vzwpix.com, phone receives as a text w/file, save the song, use it as a ringtone. Works for now and its easier than a seem edit =p.
Thats good information Samson. Do you have to set up anything prior to emailing yourself something at the given address you posted or can you simply put phone number in front of the @ (including area code) and send? For instance XXX-XXX-XXXX@vzxpix.com, minus the - of course. Thanks.
You don’t need to setup anything else. I used the pix address before I hacked my phone, and it worked fine.
Thanks for the reply. For some reason I am not receiving any messages when I email them to my phone.
Try sending a message to number@vtext.com.
That worked, but only the text comes through, no attachments.
Got it to work. I made a typo in the address. Thanks for the help! Now I dont have to risk flashing my phone.
I got the correct address now. It’s number@vzwpix.com.
I downgraded the software on Verizon V3C to .02 - got everything set up and I’m able to use all the functions of phone tools. But…everytime I shut down the computer and then attempt to use phone tools on another occasion, there is no modem detected,no signal and a long process to set it up again. Very frustrating. Is there something I’ve not set up right? What can I do to avoid this from happneing in the future? Would flashing to .04 fix this problem? Thanks
Okay is there anyway I can go to some place and have them downgrade my phone to firmware .02 (from .03) and then Upgrade it to .04? because I have no clue how to do any of this…
Sure, but it’s one of those things you’ll need to ask around about. It’s not something Verizon likes, so you won’t be able to just walk into a Verizon store and have it done.
i tried this and when the phone receives the text, it cannot open the pix/flix msg. any ideas why?
How do I transfer mp3 file for ring tone from my computer to my phone. I get a error code say mp3 codec not attached, so how do I do this using the tools?
Jeff
I just got a Verizon Razr yesterday from a verizon store in NYC and it’s got software version “NEWC_01.05.0A” — what’s that mean? seems there’s a new version out. . .
First thanks for all the help and hard work everyone puts into trying to find ways around Verizons stupid V-Crap! I have flashed my phone back to .02 and things, other than the firmware being a bit quirky at times, worked well! I copied media back and forth between my PC, MAC and V3c, pictures became wallpapers. Now maybe I’m missing something but when I got my phone flashed back to .04 (original version) Things worked the way they did before the flash back to .02. Bummer, I can always flash again! But this vzwpix.com thing works so why not. I’ll just have to keep my eyes and ears on for when Verizon finally fixes their mistakes! PEACE and happy tweaking!
I have NEWC_01.05.0A also.
I can’t recieve anything from the yourphonenumber@vzwpix.com
It comes bac as undeliverable.
Any thoughts?
The NEWC_01.05.0A reset the phone and the drivers no longer work for USB.
Yeah… This whole thing seems to suck pretty hard, esp. if you don’t want to spend a whole lot of time messing with the phone. Any word if these problems (file transfers disabled, etc) are accross the board for Verizon bluetooth phones or just particular to Motorola or V3c phones?
Well I sure you have all heard or experienced the horrors of Verizon, but he is another one. I have had a Motorola Vc for almost a year. The problem started when the phone would not hold a charge for more than 4 hours (in stand-by). When I took it to the local Verizon service center, I was told I needed to buy a new battery. When I questioned if they could at least check the battery before charging me the $33.00, their reply was “no, we no longer have that equipmentâ€?. So (the fool that I am) bought a new battery. After two days I had the same problem. I plugged the charger into an identical phone (which belonged to my friend, on Team Mobile) and it worked flawlessly. This of course eliminated the charger be defective. I again took my phone and new battery back to the service center, only to be brow beaten by a customer service (by that’s a bad play on words) representative. After wasting 90 minutes of my time (this being the second trip), I was told they would just replace the phone. When I questioned the refund of the battery that was purchased without need, I was told, “oh well, I can’t do anything about thatâ€?.
The fastest way to piss me off is to tell me you “can’tâ€? do something. After another 20 minutes of trying to reason with this idiot, she agreed to refund the battery. When she gave me back my new phone, it had no battery in it????? I asked her what I was supposed to do with a phone without a battery. She stated “use your old oneâ€?. I explained (twice) that when I was told my only option was to purchase a new battery, the agent kept my old one, and I have no battery. After she disappeared for another 10 minutes, she brought my new phone out with a battery. Now, I only tell you this to enlighten you on Verizon’s lack of customer service.
After I get the phone home and attempted to check my voice mail, I kept getting a recording that my pin number was not valid. After researching the phone, this young (lady) programmed someone else’s phone number in my phone. There was no quality control in place before the phones are returned to the customer. After further research, I now find I no longer have the ability to use my blue tooth network (DONG) as I had prior to this escapade. It was then I found these article and responses about Verizon disabling the OBEX feature on their phones. I called the service center manager and explained that this is a very important feature to me, and I was sold this feature and purchased this feature when I originally purchased my Motorola V3 phone. I was then told by their tech, that this was done as a “security issueâ€?, because blue tooth is too much in its infancy, and anyone could walk up close to you and download all of your files on your phone????? WHAT???? I explained that I should be able to make the decision if that was a security issue or not, and Verizon should not arbitrarily just take that feature away. I explained I have been a customer of over eight years, and I am ready to cancel my account, and take it to a cellular provider that respects their customer’s time and needs. Not a company that will “TELLâ€? you what they will allow.
So now its three days later and four and a half hours wasted. I was told I could get a micorSD / TransFlash card and card reader/writer to be able to download my pictures, ring tones, and what ever I use to be able to send to my phone. As this seemed like my only option, I did just that. Now I find that was incorrect information as well. Another tech advised me the phone will not read any information that does not have a “licenseâ€? attached to it. Meaning if you didn’t purchase their music, or ring tones, it’s NOT GOING TO WORK!!!!
Any Ideas??????
Wow that really sucks. Regarding your Bluetooth, I’ve heard you can flash the old firmware onto the newer RAZRs. You’ll loose support for the SD slot, but since you can’t but any non-license stuff onto it, it’s not much use anyway. I’d try giving that a shot.
Hey I have a RAZR V3m for VZW and I recently had my music synced onto the phone, and i was wondering if anybody knew how i could transfer the song so it becomes my ringtone?
I currently have an Alltel Razr V3c. I have read about emailing ringtones through number@vzwpix.com. Is there a similar way to email my ringtones for an Alltel Razr V3c. Thanks for the help.
I currently have an Alltel Razr V3c. I read about the verizon version where you can email ringtones to number@vzwpix.com. Is there an Alltel version of this? Thanks for the help.
Yes, number@message.alltel.com.
I have tried every trick to get my v3c working with MPT, and have decided that there is not way, and you all are full of crap…. prove me wrong
Here is a quick fix..it’s slow..but will give you access to EVERYTHING on a v3m!!
Credit goes to: ephemeron
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Moto4lin was written for Linux, which means that it’s both a good example of things the Unixy-goodness of OS X makes possible and a big headache to work with. Start at http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Mac_OS_X; just grab the binary, install the included Qt-Mac, and you can ignore most of that page.
For configuration,
1. Plug in your phone
2. Open terminal and type the following: ls -la /dev
3. Now scroll up and look for something like cu.usbmodemxxxx (not tty.usbmodemxxx)
Mine was cu.usbmodem1B11
5. Now open up Moto4lin and open up preferences
6. In the top line (ACM device) change the entry to match up for your phone, mine is /dev/cu.usbmodem1B11 for my RAZR and /dev/cu.usbmodem5B141 for my ROKR
7. Click the Update list button to display all your USB devices
NOTE: Here’s what I found to be the tricky part
8. The first time you click the button, find your phone and click set as AT Device. Click ok to close the prefs window.
9. Click the Connect/Disconnect button and it should start to connect and then fail
10. Open up the preferences again and click the update list button and you will now see a different number for your phone. Click the set as P2k Device button.
Mine was 4902 for AT and 4901 for P2k, odd but it works.
I don’t understand why, but preferences don’t always “stick” in moto4lin; I had to repeat steps 7-10 a couple of times, re-entering the same information each time, before I could get a connection. Eventually, though, the preferences “took” and I haven’t had to reconfigure since the first successful connection.
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Worked for me right away!
NOW Go have fun and screw corporate “greed”!!!
I have a Cingular RAZR and it doesn’t seem to have OBEX on it. Is this possible? Is seems like all the postings talk about how Verizon stinks for disabling OBEX and how folks should switch to Cingular but my phone is a Cingular branded RAZR and it doesn’t go OBEX when I connect it to my Windows XP computer. Any ideas?
I only wanna know one thing, how do I get files from my phone onto my computer without installing any crap
I have had my RAZR V3c for almost two years now. I just recently bought myself a mini USB cable which allows me to connect my phone to my pc. Is there anything that I can do with this option? I’ve done some reading about transferring pictures to the computer via this cable, but there seems to be a lot of changes that need to be made on the computer first. I’m a little tense about changing any settings on the computer. I’m also afraid to mess up the phone. The articles that I have read are a few years old. Anything new with this topic for 2008? THANKS!
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